Comments on: Google Apps vs. Google Accounts Parity Coming http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming A blog about software Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:02:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: H. Paul Moon http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2609 H. Paul Moon Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:07:01 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2609 Just to clarify (if it's not already clear to some), there are fundamental misunderstandings in the comments and in numerous guides across the Web about the ability to "transfer" a Google Voice number/account from a standard Google account to a Google Apps account. The key step in any such guide, proposing that a user create a new Google Voice account as a destination for the "transfer," is the heart of the flaw. What the user essentially does in that action is create a new Google account, which itself can have any email address in the world associated with it as the primary login - INCLUDING a Google Apps email address. This does not mean, though, that the new Google account and pertaining Google Voice account magically transform into anything related to Google Apps - only that the login to the standard NON-APPS Google account happens to match the Google Apps email address. All that such guides illustrate is the long-standing process of transferring one Google Voice NON-APPS account to another Google Voice NON-APPS account. Thus, Google's caution that the transfer process does not work into Google Apps is absolutely correct. Just to clarify (if it’s not already clear to some), there are fundamental misunderstandings in the comments and in numerous guides across the Web about the ability to “transfer” a Google Voice number/account from a standard Google account to a Google Apps account.

The key step in any such guide, proposing that a user create a new Google Voice account as a destination for the “transfer,” is the heart of the flaw. What the user essentially does in that action is create a new Google account, which itself can have any email address in the world associated with it as the primary login – INCLUDING a Google Apps email address. This does not mean, though, that the new Google account and pertaining Google Voice account magically transform into anything related to Google Apps – only that the login to the standard NON-APPS Google account happens to match the Google Apps email address.

All that such guides illustrate is the long-standing process of transferring one Google Voice NON-APPS account to another Google Voice NON-APPS account. Thus, Google’s caution that the transfer process does not work into Google Apps is absolutely correct.

]]> By: Timothy Post http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2594 Timothy Post Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:38:17 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2594 Once the data merge is complete, I'd love to see Google focus a bit on Google Profiles. Specifically, I'd like to see them let users associate their profile with a custom domain. Ideally, I'd like for my Google Profile to "live" at http://google.timothypost.com As you know, Facebook currently only let's people use "sub-folder" custom URLs. By giving folks a choice between sub-folder and sub-domain URLs, Google would leapfrog Facebook. Once the data merge is complete, I’d love to see Google focus a bit on Google Profiles. Specifically, I’d like to see them let users associate their profile with a custom domain.

Ideally, I’d like for my Google Profile to “live” at http://google.timothypost.com As you know, Facebook currently only let’s people use “sub-folder” custom URLs. By giving folks a choice between sub-folder and sub-domain URLs, Google would leapfrog Facebook.

]]> By: Rob Butler http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2592 Rob Butler Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:55:48 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2592 There will also be no way of adding storage to your account on Google Apps full accounts - unless you are a premium/education customer - so standard customers are better using blogger/picasa on a standard google account. If only Google would tidy up their standard GMail interface http://bit.ly/bVxcrl it wouldn't be so painful leaving my apps account behind! There will also be no way of adding storage to your account on Google Apps full accounts – unless you are a premium/education customer – so standard customers are better using blogger/picasa on a standard google account.

If only Google would tidy up their standard GMail interface http://bit.ly/bVxcrl it wouldn’t be so painful leaving my apps account behind!

]]> By: trip.foster http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2578 trip.foster Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:25:46 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2578 Gina- I have same concerns regarding voice as you...et us know what you learn when you learn it! Gina-
I have same concerns regarding voice as you…et us know what you learn when you learn it!

]]> By: shaun@haywardmail.net http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2574 shaun@haywardmail.net Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:18:10 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2574 I actually "successfully" tried this method last week some time and whilst it initially worked great, there is one real BIG ISSUE I have now come across: Google Checkout has not been ported to transfered Apps accounts, and GV accounts can only have credit added from the associated Google accountt. This means that there is now no way of adding credit to my GV account (which ran out of credit this morning!)!!! No more paid GV calling for me (for now at least) :( (unless anyone knows of a workaround??) I actually “successfully” tried this method last week some time and whilst it initially worked great, there is one real BIG ISSUE I have now come across:

Google Checkout has not been ported to transfered Apps accounts, and GV accounts can only have credit added from the associated Google accountt. This means that there is now no way of adding credit to my GV account (which ran out of credit this morning!)!!!

No more paid GV calling for me (for now at least) :(
(unless anyone knows of a workaround??)

]]> By: Dustin Boston http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2567 Dustin Boston Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:54:47 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2567 Gina! I have both a regular Google account with Google Voice and an apps account (sans Voice). After I saw this post I figured, what the hell, I'll try and have my Google Voice account ported to my Apps account. I followed the link at the end of the post, requested that it be changed and sure enough, 24 hours later I can now access my Google Voice account with my Google Apps username/password. Hooray GOOG! Feel free to hit me up if you'd like to verify. Gina!

I have both a regular Google account with Google Voice and an apps account (sans Voice).

After I saw this post I figured, what the hell, I’ll try and have my Google Voice account ported to my Apps account.

I followed the link at the end of the post, requested that it be changed and sure enough, 24 hours later I can now access my Google Voice account with my Google Apps username/password.

Hooray GOOG!

Feel free to hit me up if you’d like to verify.

]]> By: spawninggrounds http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2561 spawninggrounds Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:13:08 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2561 -I take that back. I tried multiple times the first week the news was released and not since. I tried once more after posting this. It works and I now have my new number! Woo!! -I take that back. I tried multiple times the first week the news was released and not since. I tried once more after posting this. It works and I now have my new number! Woo!!

]]> By: spawninggrounds http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2560 spawninggrounds Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:01:14 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2560 Gina (or anyone I guess), how come I've read a million times that Google Voice is now open to the public yet I still cannot get access myself. Even Google's page shows a message about how it's currently not open. So why is it being reported to be open publicly? I think even you've stated this. Gina (or anyone I guess), how come I’ve read a million times that Google Voice is now open to the public yet I still cannot get access myself. Even Google’s page shows a message about how it’s currently not open. So why is it being reported to be open publicly? I think even you’ve stated this.

]]> By: Brian Lenz http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2559 Brian Lenz Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:07:16 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2559 FYI, even though that Google Voice account porting page says that you can't port to a Google Apps account, you actually can. In the field "What is the Google Account you want your number to be associated with?" just put your Google Apps email address (assuming you have performed the transition to "full" Google accounts. This help article mentions you can: http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=182173 I've already done it to move my Google Voice # from my gmail.com address to my Google Apps address :) FYI, even though that Google Voice account porting page says that you can’t port to a Google Apps account, you actually can. In the field “What is the Google Account you want your number to be associated with?” just put your Google Apps email address (assuming you have performed the transition to “full” Google accounts. This help article mentions you can:

http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=182173

I’ve already done it to move my Google Voice # from my gmail.com address to my Google Apps address :)

]]> By: sethgoldstein.net/blog/ http://smarterware.org/6394/google-apps-vs-google-accounts-resolution-coming#comment-2556 sethgoldstein.net/blog/ Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:06:59 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=6394#comment-2556 Never quite understood why the two were separate in the first place. I use vanilla gmail and I still use my domain email through it. For free no doubt. So not quite sure what Google's plan was when they created the google for domains. If they wanted people to use their own domains through gmail and pay them for it why do they allow a very similar feature in vanilla gmail? Anyhow, huge fan of Gina's and TWiG! Never quite understood why the two were separate in the first place. I use vanilla gmail and I still use my domain email through it. For free no doubt. So not quite sure what Google’s plan was when they created the google for domains. If they wanted people to use their own domains through gmail and pay them for it why do they allow a very similar feature in vanilla gmail?

Anyhow, huge fan of Gina’s and TWiG!

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