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		<title>By: Khürt Williams</title>
		<link>http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics#comment-2555</link>
		<dc:creator>Khürt Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found that FaceTime may not work behind some corporate firewalls even if the use can access web sites.  My wife and I have tried several times from my office to home but it has always failed.  It works very well from places that have open Wi-Fi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found that FaceTime may not work behind some corporate firewalls even if the use can access web sites.  My wife and I have tried several times from my office to home but it has always failed.  It works very well from places that have open Wi-Fi.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Koromi</title>
		<link>http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics#comment-2338</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Koromi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh. Droid is aimed at the male segment, so advertising it with babies and married couples and stuff like that would kill brand loyalty at this point. It&#039;s supposed to be &#039;cool&#039; and &#039;badass&#039; – not heart-warming.

I mean, if the Droid commercials had babies in it, I honestly wouldn&#039;t have one. Crap advertising like that makes me angry (almost as much as babies do). I have the Droid because it&#039;s a good phone that honestly does kick ass. Even the industrial design of the phone gets that idea across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh. Droid is aimed at the male segment, so advertising it with babies and married couples and stuff like that would kill brand loyalty at this point. It&#8217;s supposed to be &#8216;cool&#8217; and &#8216;badass&#8217; – not heart-warming.</p>
<p>I mean, if the Droid commercials had babies in it, I honestly wouldn&#8217;t have one. Crap advertising like that makes me angry (almost as much as babies do). I have the Droid because it&#8217;s a good phone that honestly does kick ass. Even the industrial design of the phone gets that idea across.</p>
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		<title>By: Garmon Estes</title>
		<link>http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics#comment-2335</link>
		<dc:creator>Garmon Estes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aesthetics- yes
Advertising- Not so much

1 part Steve&#039;s Reality Distortion Field combined with 2 parts information cascade= must have this new iPad, iPhone,or idontreallycarewhatitisbutiknowineedonenow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aesthetics- yes<br />
Advertising- Not so much</p>
<p>1 part Steve&#8217;s Reality Distortion Field combined with 2 parts information cascade= must have this new iPad, iPhone,or idontreallycarewhatitisbutiknowineedonenow</p>
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		<title>By: Eli DeOliveira</title>
		<link>http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics#comment-2334</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli DeOliveira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I disagree. So what can you say about this amazing and universally acclaimed &quot;YOU&quot; HTC campaign?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUkF1vVudA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I disagree. So what can you say about this amazing and universally acclaimed &#8220;YOU&#8221; HTC campaign?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUkF1vVudA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUkF1vVudA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Huo</title>
		<link>http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics#comment-2329</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Huo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do we feel about Apple making FaceTime an &quot;Open Industry Standard&quot;? What does that mean exactly?

Will we see Android phones with FaceTime? BlackBerries?

When I had a BlackBerry i noticed that people were very attached to BlackBerry Messenger, but you could only communicate with other BlackBerry users. It kind of bummed me out that I couldn&#039;t just chat with anyone. Maybe Apple is trying to avoid FaceTime just being an iPhone only thing, and countering the &quot;closed&quot; accusations by having a few things to point to that are &quot;open&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we feel about Apple making FaceTime an &#8220;Open Industry Standard&#8221;? What does that mean exactly?</p>
<p>Will we see Android phones with FaceTime? BlackBerries?</p>
<p>When I had a BlackBerry i noticed that people were very attached to BlackBerry Messenger, but you could only communicate with other BlackBerry users. It kind of bummed me out that I couldn&#8217;t just chat with anyone. Maybe Apple is trying to avoid FaceTime just being an iPhone only thing, and countering the &#8220;closed&#8221; accusations by having a few things to point to that are &#8220;open&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Rooney</title>
		<link>http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics#comment-2328</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Rooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tenley: Thanks for that, i guess i wrote before looking it up :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tenley: Thanks for that, i guess i wrote before looking it up <img src='http://smarterware.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: tenley</title>
		<link>http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics#comment-2327</link>
		<dc:creator>tenley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt Rooney
 &quot;@Savocado: You do understand that this is live, two-way video chat, and not just the capture and playback of video files, yeah? As far as im aware, thats pretty unprecedented for the device class.&quot;

It is precedented.  It&#039;s been around in Europe for quite some time in different mobile devices.  Further more, it&#039;s already there on the Evo 4G that launched recently via the Qik app.  It&#039;s also been in Windows Mobile in various forms.  I do not deny that Apple might get more traction out of it than the other iterations, but it is precedented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt Rooney<br />
 &#8220;@Savocado: You do understand that this is live, two-way video chat, and not just the capture and playback of video files, yeah? As far as im aware, thats pretty unprecedented for the device class.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is precedented.  It&#8217;s been around in Europe for quite some time in different mobile devices.  Further more, it&#8217;s already there on the Evo 4G that launched recently via the Qik app.  It&#8217;s also been in Windows Mobile in various forms.  I do not deny that Apple might get more traction out of it than the other iterations, but it is precedented.</p>
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		<title>By: timelady</title>
		<link>http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics#comment-2319</link>
		<dc:creator>timelady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will simply answer with my response that i blogged before you wrote this post - prescient, or just that we in open source, mac, the whole tech shebang, are asking, pondering about this stuff - or should be!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timelady.com/blog/?p=2535&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Open Source needs Apple – and so does the rest of the industry…&lt;/a&gt;


(Not trawling for reads, but why repost it in entirety here?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will simply answer with my response that i blogged before you wrote this post &#8211; prescient, or just that we in open source, mac, the whole tech shebang, are asking, pondering about this stuff &#8211; or should be!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timelady.com/blog/?p=2535" rel="nofollow">Why Open Source needs Apple – and so does the rest of the industry…</a></p>
<p>(Not trawling for reads, but why repost it in entirety here?)</p>
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		<title>By: Lellius Rose</title>
		<link>http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics#comment-2318</link>
		<dc:creator>Lellius Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Droid does. Does what? Show, don&#039;t tell.&quot;

But if they showed it actually doing what it does, you&#039;d see that it&#039;s nothing more than a pretty-good facsimile of the #1 smart phone for humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Droid does. Does what? Show, don&#8217;t tell.&#8221;</p>
<p>But if they showed it actually doing what it does, you&#8217;d see that it&#8217;s nothing more than a pretty-good facsimile of the #1 smart phone for humans.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Rooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Rooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@casper: I wont defend it. It needs attention and improvement. Im not gonna pretend like everything apple does is right.

Granted, as a UX professional ill admit to being a bit biased towards the cause of Good User Experience, but IMO we have a very bad habit of giving a pass to computers and anything related - focusing on their power, their featureset, the raw numbers as a holdover from when  these devices were considered to be arcane and complex and only understood by those of us who were &quot;good at computers.&quot; 

I argue from the user experience angle, because Apple puts UX forward as a foundation principle in their products, and markets from that position. Some other companies/orgs also seem to get this and are making strides - Ubuntu seems to find something about their desktop experience to improve with each release.  Ultimately some of us keep wanting to evaluate things like the iphone as a *computer*, where in reality the fact its a computer is incidental to what it does and what it is expected to do.

UX is hard - its easier to go with the logic and cold, quantifiable reality of tech specs than the much much fuzzier and harder to pin down Good Experience. To use an analogy: &quot;what the meal lacks in flavor, it makes up for in portion size.&quot; And sometimes, you just need to be full, but most of the time you want your meal to taste good too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@casper: I wont defend it. It needs attention and improvement. Im not gonna pretend like everything apple does is right.</p>
<p>Granted, as a UX professional ill admit to being a bit biased towards the cause of Good User Experience, but IMO we have a very bad habit of giving a pass to computers and anything related &#8211; focusing on their power, their featureset, the raw numbers as a holdover from when  these devices were considered to be arcane and complex and only understood by those of us who were &#8220;good at computers.&#8221; </p>
<p>I argue from the user experience angle, because Apple puts UX forward as a foundation principle in their products, and markets from that position. Some other companies/orgs also seem to get this and are making strides &#8211; Ubuntu seems to find something about their desktop experience to improve with each release.  Ultimately some of us keep wanting to evaluate things like the iphone as a *computer*, where in reality the fact its a computer is incidental to what it does and what it is expected to do.</p>
<p>UX is hard &#8211; its easier to go with the logic and cold, quantifiable reality of tech specs than the much much fuzzier and harder to pin down Good Experience. To use an analogy: &#8220;what the meal lacks in flavor, it makes up for in portion size.&#8221; And sometimes, you just need to be full, but most of the time you want your meal to taste good too.</p>
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