Comments on: Closing the Feedback Loop http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop A blog about software Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:02:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lee Bartelme http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1876 Lee Bartelme Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:49:08 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1876 Seems like the do need a place to see the buzz. I can see it by location, but a searchable way would be best, similar to Twitter. Plus you still have the option to make it private. Maybe they already have something like this, but I haven't found it yet, and I haven't play around with Buzz enough to really know yet. Seems like the do need a place to see the buzz. I can see it by location, but a searchable way would be best, similar to Twitter. Plus you still have the option to make it private. Maybe they already have something like this, but I haven’t found it yet, and I haven’t play around with Buzz enough to really know yet.

]]> By: Chris Messina http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1854 Chris Messina Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:44:36 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1854 I've filed a bug against the Google Buzz API to support trackbacks. Ideally we'll just use Salmon, but trackbacks might create a good interim solution since they're already widely supported: http://code.google.com/p/google-buzz-api/issues/detail?id=12 I’ve filed a bug against the Google Buzz API to support trackbacks. Ideally we’ll just use Salmon, but trackbacks might create a good interim solution since they’re already widely supported:

http://code.google.com/p/google-buzz-api/issues/detail?id=12

]]> By: deabill.net/jason http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1847 deabill.net/jason Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:20:01 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1847 According to the docs their planning Salmon support (http://code.google.com/apis/buzz/documentation/#coming-soon). Hopefully that'll help get the conversation pushed around to the right places. They need to do it fast though. According to the docs their planning Salmon support (http://code.google.com/apis/buzz/documentation/#coming-soon).

Hopefully that’ll help get the conversation pushed around to the right places. They need to do it fast though.

]]> By: Brian Briggs http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1846 Brian Briggs Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:49:57 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1846 I was coming here to say what Bruce just said, well done. I'd like to add that with Buzz getting posted to profiles and being indexed, it seems rather trivial to get the conversations people are having about your work in Buzz. Also, it would seem Matt is high profile enough that he's going to get feedback on whatever he posts. Does an author really need to see everything that's said about it? Are we that insecure? I was coming here to say what Bruce just said, well done.

I’d like to add that with Buzz getting posted to profiles and being indexed, it seems rather trivial to get the conversations people are having about your work in Buzz.

Also, it would seem Matt is high profile enough that he’s going to get feedback on whatever he posts. Does an author really need to see everything that’s said about it? Are we that insecure?

]]> By: Bruce Vittetoe http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1844 Bruce Vittetoe Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:27:47 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1844 I read Matt's post and understand where he is coming from. I also read the comments of his post and agree more so with a few of the commenters. If I read one of his posts and have a conversation with my wife about it, then that is a private conversation he wouldn't and shouldn't hear. I feel the same is true for Facebook comments. Facebook comments are conversation that I have with my circle of friends and I may not want the original author to see them, nor do I believe they need to. I realize having the conversation on the Internet changes the game quite a bit, especially in the case of Google Buzz where everything seems so public, but in some cases the conversation can still remain somewhat private. I agree, if I wanted to give feedback on publishers work, I should so at the original source. If I want to have a conversation with my own friends about that publishers work, why should they need to see that conversation or even be involved? In the case of this post here on Smarterware. Should I post my comments about this subject here or on Matt's blog where he originally talked about the subject? I think here. Smarterware.org is like your Facebook. You linked to a blog post here and expressed your opinion. Your circle of friends (Smarterware.org commenters) then have a conversation here about the blog post you linked to. Should we be having this conversation on Matt's blog or here? Again I think it should be here. If none of this make sense, feel free to disregard. Gina, thanks for the work you do on This Week In Google. I love that show! I read Matt’s post and understand where he is coming from. I also read the comments of his post and agree more so with a few of the commenters. If I read one of his posts and have a conversation with my wife about it, then that is a private conversation he wouldn’t and shouldn’t hear. I feel the same is true for Facebook comments. Facebook comments are conversation that I have with my circle of friends and I may not want the original author to see them, nor do I believe they need to. I realize having the conversation on the Internet changes the game quite a bit, especially in the case of Google Buzz where everything seems so public, but in some cases the conversation can still remain somewhat private.

I agree, if I wanted to give feedback on publishers work, I should so at the original source. If I want to have a conversation with my own friends about that publishers work, why should they need to see that conversation or even be involved?

In the case of this post here on Smarterware. Should I post my comments about this subject here or on Matt’s blog where he originally talked about the subject? I think here. Smarterware.org is like your Facebook. You linked to a blog post here and expressed your opinion. Your circle of friends (Smarterware.org commenters) then have a conversation here about the blog post you linked to. Should we be having this conversation on Matt’s blog or here? Again I think it should be here.

If none of this make sense, feel free to disregard. Gina, thanks for the work you do on This Week In Google. I love that show!

]]> By: Michael Olsen http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1842 Michael Olsen Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:36:49 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1842 I think the integration of Google Reader and Buzz will eventually lead to the closing of that loop. Prior to Buzz, any time you shared or shared 'with note' it only ended up in the netherworld of one's Google Reader Shared Items Page. Now when you share in Reader it gets posted as as a public Buzz. Given that every public Buzz has it's own page, it seems that it would be easy for Google to aggregate those Buzzes to get a snapshot of the feedback concerning a particular post. I think the integration of Google Reader and Buzz will eventually lead to the closing of that loop. Prior to Buzz, any time you shared or shared ‘with note’ it only ended up in the netherworld of one’s Google Reader Shared Items Page. Now when you share in Reader it gets posted as as a public Buzz.
Given that every public Buzz has it’s own page, it seems that it would be easy for Google to aggregate those Buzzes to get a snapshot of the feedback concerning a particular post.

]]> By: cjensen.livejournal.com/ http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1839 cjensen.livejournal.com/ Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:56:13 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1839 Google has provided for closing the loop, but it is up to the original publishing site to implement the protocol which would allow Google Buzz and the original publisher to both have access to all comment threads. See http://brad.livejournal.com/2408782.html Google has provided for closing the loop, but it is up to the original publishing site to implement the protocol which would allow Google Buzz and the original publisher to both have access to all comment threads.

See http://brad.livejournal.com/2408782.html

]]> By: Jimmy Blake http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1838 Jimmy Blake Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:26:42 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1838 Buzz definitely sounds like it would be a handy way to deal with Twitter and Facebook (well, not yet, but hopefully some day) in one single place for someone like me that doesn't really want to mess with going to more than one site just to do the same kind of interactions. However, I don't think that it will be a Facebook 'killer', so to speak. The reason I don't? Well, it's going to be quite an uphill battle to get a population larger than the U.S. and Canada combined to switch to a new service, and... it doesn't have Farmville. I'm half joking with the Farmville reference, of course, but even though I think most of us here on Gina's site equally detest all the application invites that we get, it's important to keep in mind that our parents and grandparents love them, as it keeps them busy and in touch with everyone else, even if it is a complete and utter waste of time. Buzz definitely sounds like it would be a handy way to deal with Twitter and Facebook (well, not yet, but hopefully some day) in one single place for someone like me that doesn’t really want to mess with going to more than one site just to do the same kind of interactions. However, I don’t think that it will be a Facebook ‘killer’, so to speak.

The reason I don’t? Well, it’s going to be quite an uphill battle to get a population larger than the U.S. and Canada combined to switch to a new service, and… it doesn’t have Farmville.

I’m half joking with the Farmville reference, of course, but even though I think most of us here on Gina’s site equally detest all the application invites that we get, it’s important to keep in mind that our parents and grandparents love them, as it keeps them busy and in touch with everyone else, even if it is a complete and utter waste of time.

]]> By: Gina Trapani http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1836 Gina Trapani Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:35:35 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1836 If Buzz succeeds, it'll be b/c it had millions of built-in users thanks to its Gmail integration. If Buzz succeeds, it’ll be b/c it had millions of built-in users thanks to its Gmail integration.

]]> By: Khosrow Ebrahimpour http://smarterware.org/5168/closing-the-feedback-loop#comment-1835 Khosrow Ebrahimpour Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:21:35 +0000 http://smarterware.org/?p=5168#comment-1835 I'm glad I'm not alone in seeing Buzz as a FriendFeed clone. What I wonder is, if the functionality of FriendFeed - the posts, ensuing conversations, and people liking posts - were so successful why didn't FriendFeed itself succeed? On second thought, maybe they did considering they got bought out by Facebook! I’m glad I’m not alone in seeing Buzz as a FriendFeed clone.

What I wonder is, if the functionality of FriendFeed – the posts, ensuing conversations, and people liking posts – were so successful why didn’t FriendFeed itself succeed? On second thought, maybe they did considering they got bought out by Facebook!

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