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    This is totally awesome, Gina. I’ll be sending everyone here (and then to your book) when they ask me 6 million questions about comparing Wave to other forms of communication. This is both clear and succinct.

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    Ian Anderson

    Just wonderful, Gina. You’re an expert at clarifying complicated topics. Have you ever considered being a teacher?

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    While it’s not a software feature per se, the other advantage some collaboration tools have is the ability to host your own (possibly customized) instance. Think Intellipedia. Obviously some organizations aren’t going to be OK with putting their proprietary information into the Google cloud.

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    Tim Lindvall

    Awesome. This is a good chart that (might) help people understand Wave… maybe…

    I did want to add, though, that GDocs does have revision control built in… though, to be fair, it’s not as advanced as Wave, so far as I can tell. You can access it through File > See Revision History.

    I hope this helps!

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    Gina Trapani

    Thanks everyone!

    @Tim: THANKS for that. Exactly the kind of fact-checking I was hoping for! I’ll update the chart.

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    Awesome idea Gina. This is a very good chart to compare a lot of things.

    One thing I did notice is that some forums do allow you to see if other people are online, but it is a very rare feature. I couldn’t find an example for you, but I am 100% sure that some forums do have this feature. You might want to put “Rare” instead of “Some” in that column because of the rarity of this feature.

    I hope that helps!

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    Vrok Olos

    You forgot about facebook though..
    should be like this but i’m probably mistaken: yes,yes,yes,no,no,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,no
    and the most important: all your friends use it already

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    I have worked with several forums and Wikis and products alike. Things stated are just incorrect. I can write a long story but will just keep it short. Let’s just take one forum solution I have used several times PHPBB.

    The ability to see when contacts are online – Yes one simple plug-in

    Instant messaging or chat, with no-refresh update, yes you can push that and even wave has a refresh on their end.

    Interactive maps, videos, polls and other widgets, no problem, lots of tools for that available

    Ability to easily publish the conversation or document, no problem in again as example in phpbb or any other cms

    User access permissions (read-only or edit) – o boy, most forum and cms solutions are way more granular as Google wave is for this. I see that as a big lacking point of Google wave.

    Ability to easily link documents to each other – no problem, just link to the other post.

    And yes I am biased, but have did give it a honest try.


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    Pär Dahlberg

    One thing I’ve noticed when collaborating with a friend on a Wave is the lack of implicit structure or being able to edit the wave structure.

    I can’t really label that “feature” or describe it very well, but I hope you get what I mean.

    It can very quickly turn into a mess with replays to topics of the same “level” as subthreads to others. In a document or on a wiki I could move a section or a page. Of course I can edit a single message in Wave, but the structure of the conversation can still be very much messed up.


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    Shadow14l Darkness


    -DO tell you when someone is online (at least SMF, IPB, and vB all do).
    -May contain chatboxes or shoutboxes, can easily be setup by webmaster. Some are AJAX with no page refresh required.
    -Nearly all forums have usergroups, and you can edit posts by any usergroup that is your level or below.
    -Forums can easily have widgets added to them. It is very easy to setup a custom bbcode that allows users to add in these types of widgets just like wave has them.
    -vBulletin 4 has just released a beta CMS, so you easily add in articles and other stuff. So this should be ‘Some’.
    -In forums, you can easily link together groups, or well it’s not too hard to do anyways, but it is entirely possible. You can either setup topics with similar headers, or have differentiated sections for each forum.

    Also you forgot about Etherpad, which many thousands of users DO use!

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    Here is my comparison to Office Web Docs which is currently in Beta (like Google Docs and Wave)…

    Hope this formating comes out…

    Microsoft Office Web Access

    single, hosted copy of a conversation or document

    ability to see when contacts are online

    messaging or chat, with no-refresh updates

    live updates with multiple visible cursors

    editing of one document by multiple collaborators

    rights to other participants’ contributions

    ability to see and compare past versions

    maps, videos, polls and other widgets

    replies and threaded conversations

    to easily publish the conversation or document

    access permissions (read-only or edit)

    to easily link documents to each other

    to export the finished document to a file

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    Mohnish Thallavajhula

    Awesome Gina. Good one. Keep up the great work. :)

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    I appreciate that the intent is to sell books, but isn’t this chart not making a fair comparison? It’s not being compared to other collaboration software, but instead ticking off all the things it can do.

    I could draft a similar chart saying that my iPhone compares favorably to a phone, a media player, a GPS unit, a PDA, and a UMPC, but it would be hugely misleading to not mention Android Phones, the Pre, Symbian, etc etc. In that vein, the omission of Basecamp, Sharepoint, and so on give the false impression that Wave is unique in its class.

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    I really hope that Wave will be adopted by many, but right now it doesn’t look that way. Basically it’s open now, because we all have invites left, but not many peoople are using it.

    In the above list it looks a bit like you have listed all the functions of Wave and then compared them with other systems. Then it’s logical that Wave wins.

    As for the last point: it is possible to make a bot that exports the wave. That’s what I think is the greatest feature of Wave: the ability to access the data through an api an build extensions.

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    Jose Ripalda

    A combination of etherpad and notepub gives you a yes in all columns.

    The way I use this is by inserting links to pages in etherpad from notes in notepub.

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    Gina Trapani

    Hey all–just to clarify again:

    The purpose of this chart is to explain Google Wave in terms of its similarities and differences from existing group collaboration offerings. It is by no means complete. For space reasons, I left out a LOT of issues, like federation, extensions, mobile, add-ons, details of how different things are handled. Again, this is meant to be a broad, at-a-glance overview.

    In general if something required an external add-on, I didn’t consider that a feature of the product or type of product. I realize that comparing types of products (forums, wikis) against specific products (Google Docs, Wave) is apples-to-oranges, but again, this is a BROAD overview. I don’t feel that a particular wiki or forum product can represent the entire genre the way Google Docs represents web-based office suites. I didn’t have the space to get into the nitty gritty of one forum or wiki product over another. THAT chart would have been monstrous.

    So, yes, I made a few generalizations here both in and not in Wave’s favor. (For example, there is a Wave bot that exports blips, but IMO it sucks, so I didn’t give Wave a “yes” for exporting documents.)

    Again, this chart is for the purpose of illustrating to readers of a book about Wave how Wave compares to similar types of products. My apologies for having to generalize a bit for the sake of space.

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    Alan Burchill

    If you want to compare it to other colobration products you should defenitly include Office Web Access and SharePoint 2010 Foundations server… These are the similar offereing from Microsoft. Office Web Access is the free web based version for the Internet and SharePoint Foundations Server is the inhouse corporate version… Both run in a web browser and offer similar functionality to Google Docs & Wave.

    If you are going to do a comparison leaving out Microsoft’s would be a big ommision.

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    Dan Sargent

    Google should probably hire you for PR/Marketing. 😉

    Judging by the pitiful stats that Wave is getting (there’s some hitwise stats recently that show Wave is swiftly becoming as big of a flop as the Nexus One’s week one sales), they could use someone on staff who can actually explain what this platform can do.

    Of course, this is because Google almost exclusively hires codemonkey engineers.

    That’s great for their software & systems work, but it means that they consistently fail at things where they’re required to interface with “real” people (i.e. customer service, and PR/Marketing — again, the Nexus One fail is a good example).

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